Quote: Originalmente postado por automatic em 01/03/2011 21:33:34

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Se vc considerar usado dá para comprar todos...

Relógio usado é igual a carro usado. Saiu da loja não vale nada...

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Quote: Originalmente postado por Cigano em 01/03/2011 09:54:37

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Eu deixaria a Tag em último da listinha rápida, agora se fosse os antigos Heuer, que usam os famosos calibres 11, 12 13... que a famosa Breitiling também usa/usava aí sim!!


Abraços,
Cigano!!!

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Quote: Originalmente postado por automatic em 01/03/2011 21:33:34

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Se vc considerar usado dá para comprar todos...

Relógio usado é igual a carro usado. Saiu da loja não vale nada...

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Quote: Originalmente postado por gustavobsb em 02/03/2011 03:00:41

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Amigos, resumi a classificação, que está em Inglês, mas acredito que a maioria não terá problemas para entender e traduzir..
Ele foi dividido em HIGH END LUXURY, LUXURY, PSEUDO LUXURY e BASIC LUXURY..Abaixo estão os exemplos. Este ranking foi retirado na fonte: http://www.chronocentric.com/watches/brands.shtml

Vamos às POLÊMICAS dele..hehehehe

Gustavo!!

High-End Luxury

There are always superb options when money is no object.

Expect To Get:
A particularly refined watch recognized only by people "in the know." Very exclusive in design and craftsmanship, produced in small numbers, available through only very specialized dealers. In short, these are the Rolls Royce class of timepieces.
Examples of Brands in this Range:      

A Lange and Sohne, Alain Silberstein, Audemars Piguet, Blancpain, Breguet, Franck Muller, JLC, Parmigiani, Patek Phillipe, Ulysse Nardin, Vacheron Constantin      

Prices: starting at $5,000 for Steel models
starting at $10,000 for Gold on a leather strap
starting at $20,000 for Gold on a Gold bracelet
with the sky as the limit. Some watches can exceed $2,000,000.
Design/Style:      On The Outside:      On The Inside:
Either highly distinctive or ultra-conservative.      Very to extremely limited production. Partially to completely handcrafted.      Hand finished mechanical movements either developed and produced by the same company ('in-house') or bought from specialty movement houses and highly customized. Additional mechanical complications--from obvious ones like moon phases and power reserve indicators to very subtle ones like correctly handling all the obscure conditions of the Gregorian calendar.

      Because of high new watch prices and limited production, used models are in notable demand and still command quite decent prices.      Always collectible, always valuable.
Summary:
If you have the kind of money necessary to play in this field, then you likely do understand what the true merits and values of world-class luxury items have to offer. These are the products that impress those in the know, not the average Joe on the street. Exclusivity and extremes of refinement and jewelry value are king here.

Luxury

The largest, most widely known class of luxury timepieces
Expect To Get:
An elegant, valuable, stylish and prestigious watch that will serve you well for a long time. Of quality and durability that the watch can be passed down to your children. If maintained in good condition, can be resold whether it is 6 months or 30 years old.
Examples of Brands in this Range:     

Breitling, Cartier, Ebel, Omega, Rolex      

Prices: $1,000-$4,000 for Steel models
$2,500-$8,000 for Gold on a leather strap
$5,000-$20,000 for Gold on a Gold bracelet
Only modest discounts available through most brand-authorized dealers. Moderate discounts available from unauthorized "gray market" dealers.
      High-end movements mass produced by the brand, or by a different company and then often customized by the brand. Dominantly very high-grade quartz and chronometer-grade mechanical. Digital quartz not seen at this level except for a few very specialized aerospace watches.

Sold officially mainly through dealers of higher-end jewelry. Though several forms of unauthorized resellers exist. Discounts through authorized dealers are restricted by the manufacturers to avoid cheapening the brand image.      Superb market. Watches in this class are well sought after, but their high initial pricing encourages many buyers to seek used ones to better suit their budgets.      Superb market. Watches in this class can last for many decades and are readily available through many reputable used watch dealers.
Summary:
This is the main tier of true luxury watches. Overall, these can be a good value because manufacturers at this level are not skimping to offer 'luxury' products at more moderate prices--yet they mostly do not go to outrageous excess in details without regard to cost of the highest-end brands. Better durability and modest depreciation rates make the long-term cost of ownership of these watches quite reasonable. Used watches in this tier can be an outstanding value.

Pseudo Luxury Watches

When you want a better luxury watch, but don't want to spend so much
Expect To Get:
An elegant and stylish watch that will serve you well for a moderate number of years.
Examples of Brands in this Range:      

Baume & Mercier, Raymond Weil, Tag Heuer      

Prices: $500-$2,000 for Steel models
$750-$4,000 for Gold models

Moderate to heavy discounts available through various dealers.
      High-volume mass-production. Mostly analog quartz and non-chronometer grade mechanical. These brands tend to focus mostly on luxury-style exteriors equipped with very common, unexceptional watch movements.


Basic Luxury Watches

When you want something finer than average
Expect To Get:
An elegant and stylish watch that will serve you well for a number of years.
Examples of Brands in this Range:     

Epos, Fortis, Movado, Oris      

Prices: under $1,000 for Steel models
under $2,000 for Gold models
Moderate to heavy discounts available through various dealers. Crystals are usually the scratchable but inexpensively replaced mineral glass or acrylic type.      High-volume mass-production. Mostly analog quartz and non-chronometer grade mechanical. However some offer very unique complications at modest prices relative to most of the luxury watch market.

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Quote: Originalmente postado por Marcelo Melgaço em 01/03/2011 23:28:01

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Quote: Originalmente postado por automatic em 01/03/2011 21:33:34

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Se vc considerar usado dá para comprar todos...

Relógio usado é igual a carro usado. Saiu da loja não vale nada...

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Com exceção de diversos modelos da Patek Philippe e Rolex e alguns de outras marcas da alta relojoaria.

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Quote: Originalmente postado por gustavobsb em 02/03/2011 03:00:41

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Amigos, resumi a classificação, que está em Inglês, mas acredito que a maioria não terá problemas para entender e traduzir..
Ele foi dividido em HIGH END LUXURY, LUXURY, PSEUDO LUXURY e BASIC LUXURY..Abaixo estão os exemplos. Este ranking foi retirado na fonte: http://www.chronocentric.com/watches/brands.shtml

Vamos às POLÊMICAS dele..hehehehe

Gustavo!!

High-End Luxury

There are always superb options when money is no object.

Expect To Get:
A particularly refined watch recognized only by people "in the know." Very exclusive in design and craftsmanship, produced in small numbers, available through only very specialized dealers. In short, these are the Rolls Royce class of timepieces.
Examples of Brands in this Range:      

A Lange and Sohne, Alain Silberstein, Audemars Piguet, Blancpain, Breguet, Franck Muller, JLC, Parmigiani, Patek Phillipe, Ulysse Nardin, Vacheron Constantin      

Prices: starting at $5,000 for Steel models
starting at $10,000 for Gold on a leather strap
starting at $20,000 for Gold on a Gold bracelet
with the sky as the limit. Some watches can exceed $2,000,000.
Design/Style:      On The Outside:      On The Inside:
Either highly distinctive or ultra-conservative.      Very to extremely limited production. Partially to completely handcrafted.      Hand finished mechanical movements either developed and produced by the same company ('in-house') or bought from specialty movement houses and highly customized. Additional mechanical complications--from obvious ones like moon phases and power reserve indicators to very subtle ones like correctly handling all the obscure conditions of the Gregorian calendar.

      Because of high new watch prices and limited production, used models are in notable demand and still command quite decent prices.      Always collectible, always valuable.
Summary:
If you have the kind of money necessary to play in this field, then you likely do understand what the true merits and values of world-class luxury items have to offer. These are the products that impress those in the know, not the average Joe on the street. Exclusivity and extremes of refinement and jewelry value are king here.

Luxury

The largest, most widely known class of luxury timepieces
Expect To Get:
An elegant, valuable, stylish and prestigious watch that will serve you well for a long time. Of quality and durability that the watch can be passed down to your children. If maintained in good condition, can be resold whether it is 6 months or 30 years old.
Examples of Brands in this Range:     

Breitling, Cartier, Ebel, Omega, Rolex      

Prices: $1,000-$4,000 for Steel models
$2,500-$8,000 for Gold on a leather strap
$5,000-$20,000 for Gold on a Gold bracelet
Only modest discounts available through most brand-authorized dealers. Moderate discounts available from unauthorized "gray market" dealers.
      High-end movements mass produced by the brand, or by a different company and then often customized by the brand. Dominantly very high-grade quartz and chronometer-grade mechanical. Digital quartz not seen at this level except for a few very specialized aerospace watches.

Sold officially mainly through dealers of higher-end jewelry. Though several forms of unauthorized resellers exist. Discounts through authorized dealers are restricted by the manufacturers to avoid cheapening the brand image.      Superb market. Watches in this class are well sought after, but their high initial pricing encourages many buyers to seek used ones to better suit their budgets.      Superb market. Watches in this class can last for many decades and are readily available through many reputable used watch dealers.
Summary:
This is the main tier of true luxury watches. Overall, these can be a good value because manufacturers at this level are not skimping to offer 'luxury' products at more moderate prices--yet they mostly do not go to outrageous excess in details without regard to cost of the highest-end brands. Better durability and modest depreciation rates make the long-term cost of ownership of these watches quite reasonable. Used watches in this tier can be an outstanding value.

Pseudo Luxury Watches

When you want a better luxury watch, but don't want to spend so much
Expect To Get:
An elegant and stylish watch that will serve you well for a moderate number of years.
Examples of Brands in this Range:      

Baume & Mercier, Raymond Weil, Tag Heuer      

Prices: $500-$2,000 for Steel models
$750-$4,000 for Gold models

Moderate to heavy discounts available through various dealers.
      High-volume mass-production. Mostly analog quartz and non-chronometer grade mechanical. These brands tend to focus mostly on luxury-style exteriors equipped with very common, unexceptional watch movements.


Basic Luxury Watches

When you want something finer than average
Expect To Get:
An elegant and stylish watch that will serve you well for a number of years.
Examples of Brands in this Range:     

Epos, Fortis, Movado, Oris      

Prices: under $1,000 for Steel models
under $2,000 for Gold models
Moderate to heavy discounts available through various dealers. Crystals are usually the scratchable but inexpensively replaced mineral glass or acrylic type.      High-volume mass-production. Mostly analog quartz and non-chronometer grade mechanical. However some offer very unique complications at modest prices relative to most of the luxury watch market.

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